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Old 2015-07-26, 12:33pm
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Default WHY is red so darned difficult?!

Ok, I am sure this has been discussed, but I did a search for red glass, and just plain red, and no luck!!

I know that to encase red, you are supposed to lay down a core of clear, then red, then clear. ( knowing it doesn't mean it works for me! ) I asked this question in another thread, and the silence is still echoing, so, I put it out to the entire group.....

WHY is red so difficult? What is happening in the glass that makes it turn to mud brown when ever I work with it? I had great luck with it as a newbie, but as I practice, my color gets worse!! Please! What do I have to do to make red work? (
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Old 2015-07-26, 2:27pm
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No help on the red since I haven't had problems, but when searching, use an asterisk after any search term less than four letters. The search function requires four characters or more. Hope that helps.
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Old 2015-07-26, 5:21pm
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Seeing as you've not had much luck with a reply, I'm going to hazard a guess here. When you were a newbie making beads, they were probably very simply, not much marvering or decoration. The longer the red glasses are worked, the more livery or mud-colored they become.
Now that you're not such a newbie anymore, you're probably making beads a bit more complicated and doing maneuvers that require a longer heat to accomplish. Try to make the red glass the last thing you add to the bead and minimize the time in the flame. See if that helps some.
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Old 2015-07-27, 6:45am
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There was a recent thread about red, but it seems to have been deleted. Here's an old one.

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh....php?p=4406629
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Old 2015-07-28, 8:06am
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Here's something I've been working on all summer - heat control. I tend to encase almost everything (it's like a horrible disease!) and I recently found that if I take the time to hold the bead in the outer reach of the flame vs. right on the flame, that things tend to melt slower, giving me more control with the encasement layer. I use both gravity and marvers to encase. I've had luck with heat control, give it a try!
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Old 2015-07-28, 10:38am
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.... The longer the red glasses are worked, the more livery or mud-colored they become...
Exactly. Also, it isn't just about time in flame. It's heating time, period, so anything red should be made last. The longer it sits in the kiln, the less red and more livery brown it will become. (Some just turn dark, instead of livery.)

This is true for boro reds, as well. Red just wants to be brown, apparently.
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Old 2015-07-28, 11:14am
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I tend to encase almost everything (it's like a horrible disease!)
LOL! Let me know if you start a support group. I need to join.
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