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2012-12-17, 10:53am
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Using a stringer to twist help
Any help out there on this would be greatly appreciated...I am trying to use a stringer to do a "twist." I have seen instructions using the cold, flat end of a stringer say to make a paisley or just a simple twist. However, I can't seem to get it right. My stringer gets stuck and I end up pulling my bead apart.
I have tried a number of ways, but I think I am not timing my heat correctly or something. Help? Ideas?
Thanks everyone!
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2012-12-17, 11:02am
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Julie,
Are you trying to pull the stringer out of the bead after you twist? The best way to get it out is to snap it off where it meets the bead. Let it cool a bit after twisting, you can even blow on the spot where it's attached to the bead, and then snap it off.
You might be using a stringer that's too big. I find about 2mm in diameter is perfect.
Before you twist, you want the glass in your twist spot to be hot enough to move easily, but not soupy enough to melt the end of the stringer you're using to twist. Heat it well, then let it cool for a few seconds before twisting. That will make it easier to snap off your stringer.
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2012-12-17, 11:17am
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I do pretty much what Kim said but my stringer is usually a bit smaller diameter and pulled from a rod. Spot heat where you want to twist, twist with the stringer and I blow on that spot and snap it. Do be careful your lips don't get too close!
When I say pulled from a rod, I mean to leave the rod attached to the stringer, about 4 inches of stringer or so. Full long rods are unwieldy, 6 inches of full size rod is a nice handle. What I don't want is the stringer to break when snapping it, leaving tails of stringer on the bead or too short a stringer to continue twisting.
It may take a couple of quick blows on the spot. If you can wiggle the stringer, wait a sec. You'll get the feel for when it's firm enough to snap off.
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2012-12-17, 7:31pm
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Thank you Kim and Rebecca! Now I get it. It works, now just practice so it works every time! Thanks!!
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2012-12-18, 10:40am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Muses Glass
When I say pulled from a rod, I mean to leave the rod attached to the stringer, about 4 inches of stringer or so. Full long rods are unwieldy, 6 inches of full size rod is a nice handle. What I don't want is the stringer to break when snapping it, leaving tails of stringer on the bead or too short a stringer to continue twisting.
It may take a couple of quick blows on the spot. If you can wiggle the stringer, wait a sec. You'll get the feel for when it's firm enough to snap off.
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I do this too and I use Reichenbach clear because it's stiffer and holds up better.
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2012-12-19, 11:07am
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I'm gonna try this too!!! What a great thread!
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2012-12-19, 12:24pm
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I do this with different diameter stringers, different amounts of heat, and different colors of stringer to get different effects. I really love when the bead goes all wonky, like here. I imagine the bead has been "tortured". Not a fun idea but it sure looks cool.
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2012-12-19, 12:44pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyssa
I do this with different diameter stringers, different amounts of heat, and different colors of stringer to get different effects. I really love when the bead goes all wonky, like here. I imagine the bead has been "tortured". Not a fun idea but it sure looks cool.
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I love your designs, pretty colors. I'm having fun experimenting with this technique and will post some pictures soon. I have some really "wonky" ones.
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2012-12-19, 3:11pm
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I pull out the end of a whole rod until it's long and sharp and use that to twist with. I break it off flush with the bead.
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2012-12-19, 3:55pm
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What Kim said....let the glass cool a bit...even blow on it and then snap the stringer off....another way to get a slightly different effect is to heat the end of the stringer just a bit and then press down on marver to form a little tiny Maria.....heat the spot on bead a d twist surface with Maria...cool and snap off....learned in a class...maybe Michael Barley....surely not my created process....
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2012-12-19, 7:58pm
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I spot heat with a pinpoint flame and then twist. Then I blow on it and snap it off.
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2012-12-20, 7:59am
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this method (without the twist) can be used to apply very fine millefiori still in the rod form. I saw it in a youtube video and tried it with a very thin skull millefiori I made.
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2012-12-23, 2:16pm
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Additionally how to do this without completely deforming the bead?
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2012-12-23, 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by allegrafuct
Additionally how to do this without completely deforming the bead?
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Your bead is solid when you twist. You only heat up the area you want to move.
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2012-12-23, 2:30pm
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Genius lol
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2012-12-23, 4:19pm
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Heat control
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Additionally how to do this without completely deforming the bead?
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2012-12-25, 12:44pm
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A trick o learned from my favourite beady teacher, make a small Maria on the end of your stringer, you get a bigger twist area for a different effect, it still snaps off and you just melt the little stub
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curly Irish Girl
What Kim said....let the glass cool a bit...even blow on it and then snap the stringer off....another way to get a slightly different effect is to heat the end of the stringer just a bit and then press down on marver to form a little tiny Maria.....heat the spot on bead a d twist surface with Maria...cool and snap off....learned in a class...maybe Michael Barley....surely not my created process....
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2012-12-26, 5:31pm
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I like pulling out the end of a rod to stringer size. I learned that from Jennifer Geldard; it's part of her twisted heart technique. She calls that short rod with the narrow end a "twisting tool" and I like it better than just a stringer because the rod gives me a better grip.
Here's a link, scroll down to see the twisting tool: http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/11899/229/page3.php
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