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2008-06-19, 3:46am
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Turning black and perwinkle silver
I got this recipe from Corina beadmakers challenge -Not Witchcraft
Ive tried this and have annealed at 960 and at 920. Below is the link and the statement that gemfox made to make the recipe turn silver. Anyone know what I could be doing wrong? I cut about an inch of ea. color and have tried using more perwinkle and vice versa to get this to work..I have to be doing something wrong, but I dont know what..any suggestions?
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http://www.gemfox.com/corinabeads/ch...bmissionID=186
"Base is ink blue over white, squeezed, detailed with stringer pulled from a homogenous mix of Moretti periwinkle 220 and Moretti black 064. I don't know what happens in my kiln that turns it silver!"
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2008-06-19, 5:19am
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Gosh it is a lovely effect. I hope someone knows the secret and is prepared to share!
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2008-06-19, 5:42am
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2008-06-19, 5:44pm
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I've never been able to get the mix to do that (and I've tried). I wonder if it was something specific to a certain batch?
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2008-06-19, 8:02pm
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She must have a reduction atmosphere in her kiln
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2008-06-20, 7:21am
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Ohhhhhhhhhh loverly !
So how do I get a reduction goin on in my kiln ?
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2008-06-21, 9:39pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cherie
I got this recipe from Corina beadmakers challenge -Not Witchcraft
Ive tried this and have annealed at 960 and at 920. Below is the link and the statement that gemfox made to make the recipe turn silver. Anyone know what I could be doing wrong? I cut about an inch of ea. color and have tried using more perwinkle and vice versa to get this to work..I have to be doing something wrong, but I dont know what..any suggestions?
Link:
http://www.gemfox.com/corinabeads/ch...bmissionID=186
"Base is ink blue over white, squeezed, detailed with stringer pulled from a homogenous mix of Moretti periwinkle 220 and Moretti black 064. I don't know what happens in my kiln that turns it silver!" |
have you tried waving the bead thru a reduction flame a bit before popping it into the kiln?
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2008-06-22, 6:48am
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No, but ill try that, there is also something on corinnas website about mixing the colors, but it didn't read anything about the colors turning silver. I didnt notice that foxxys email is at the end of the page on the witchcraft site..so Im going to try emailing her/him.
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2008-06-23, 9:03am
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I had a batch (2-3 years ago) of Moretti black that did the silver thing like dark silver plum in a oxygen rich flame. Wonder if she was using an old batch of that black to make it do this?
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2008-06-23, 10:35am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swamper
I had a batch (2-3 years ago) of Moretti black that did the silver thing like dark silver plum in a oxygen rich flame. Wonder if she was using an old batch of that black to make it do this?
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Vetrofond black does this. I have some animal print beads made with a twistie of Vetrofond black and light ivory and there is a very distinct silver line that is caused by the black.
I bet CIM Hades black would work also.
Try mixing either of those with the periwinkle and see what you get!
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2008-06-24, 4:12pm
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I wish I could tell ya!
Hey everyone! How's it goin? I don't do anything special in the flame [that i'm aware of!] for these beads. It comes out that way after a night in the kiln. I dunno what exactly is going on in there, serendipity often takes over. It seems that the moretti periwinkle/black mix turns silver in there. However, when I reduce gold pink in the flame on a [different] bead, it just doesn't want to stay gold after a night in the kiln. I've been trying to be as observant as possible to try and gain control of it, and here are some of my guesses:
When i open the kiln door repeatedly while working, putting beads in throughout the session, maybe it's sucking in oxygen, perhaps taking away my reduction. Maybe whatever takes the reduction out from my rubino is what's turning the peri/black into silver.
Ever stack dots with black and melt in, and then after annealing, the black has like, a silver lining around it? I think sage stringer on moretti black does that too - where it has silver linings. I'm guessing it's the silver in the dark purple (moretti black) that contributes...
I'll tell you one thing though - if i make a batch of beads with peri/black stringer, it seems that the beads I made first are more likely to turn silver, and the ones I made last don't really. That's why I suspect that it has something to do with the opening/closing of the kiln door.
Good luck! Have fun nipping the mystery in the bud 
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2008-06-25, 2:32am
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Thanx 
I will try this.
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Originally Posted by MaryBeth
Vetrofond black does this. I have some animal print beads made with a twistie of Vetrofond black and light ivory and there is a very distinct silver line that is caused by the black.
I bet CIM Hades black would work also.
Try mixing either of those with the periwinkle and see what you get!
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2008-06-25, 2:35am
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Hi,
Thanx for your reply...I think Kseeber has some tips on turning ruby, Ill see if I can find it.
Im going to keep trying this just b/c I love the look of silver.
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Originally Posted by GemFOX
Hey everyone! How's it goin? I don't do anything special in the flame [that i'm aware of!] for these beads. It comes out that way after a night in the kiln. I dunno what exactly is going on in there, serendipity often takes over. It seems that the moretti periwinkle/black mix turns silver in there. However, when I reduce gold pink in the flame on a [different] bead, it just doesn't want to stay gold after a night in the kiln. I've been trying to be as observant as possible to try and gain control of it, and here are some of my guesses:
When i open the kiln door repeatedly while working, putting beads in throughout the session, maybe it's sucking in oxygen, perhaps taking away my reduction. Maybe whatever takes the reduction out from my rubino is what's turning the peri/black into silver.
Ever stack dots with black and melt in, and then after annealing, the black has like, a silver lining around it? I think sage stringer on moretti black does that too - where it has silver linings. I'm guessing it's the silver in the dark purple (moretti black) that contributes...
I'll tell you one thing though - if i make a batch of beads with peri/black stringer, it seems that the beads I made first are more likely to turn silver, and the ones I made last don't really. That's why I suspect that it has something to do with the opening/closing of the kiln door.
Good luck! Have fun nipping the mystery in the bud |
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