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2012-09-20, 8:28pm
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Susan
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Using bead release to make a thicker mandrel?
I was curious if anyone has redipped mantels to get a few extra centimeters. I have some wine stopper blanks that are a bit bigger than my largest mandrel so I was thinking I could dip the mandrel extra to get to the size I need. Was curious if anyone was able to do this successfully.
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2012-09-20, 9:19pm
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I have had some luck thought I let the release dry between coats.
You might be able to just let the release dry to a thicker consistency though
I always end up with more lumps and bumps after a certain point.
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2012-09-21, 7:49am
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I've tried this a long while back but had problems with the bead release breaking easily.
If you do it, make sure the first coat is completely dry.
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2012-09-21, 1:49pm
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I did this with and without success. Depends on your bead release, I had the release cracking with one type and with another type everythung went fine. I don't remember which did what ...
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2012-09-21, 2:06pm
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you could add some steel wool by wrapping it around the mandrel and covering it with
bead release. This is messy but I have seen it done successfully.
there may be info on this in Cindy Jenkins book BEADS OF GLASS?
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2012-09-22, 6:04am
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^ yes this, I needed some a certain size and roughed up the mandrel so it has a 'tooth' then wound steel wool on it, it worked really well. You sorta twist it to make it tight, if that makes sense.
I remember some making vessels like this, using steel wool to build up a core.
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2012-09-22, 9:12am
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I add a double coat of slightly thicker bead release to add a little girth to my BHB mandrels; I use 3/16" mandrels but if I want the hole about 1/4" I just double dip - and I don't let the release dry in between - just dip and then redip and allow to dry. With a double dip, I allow them to dry overnight. Also, I use Sludge Plus...
If you get lumpy-bumps, after the release is fully dry, use one of those fine sandpaper "sponge" type blocks - you can buy them in the Paint Section of Home Depot. Gently roll your release surface across the top of the sanding block, and it will smooth out the bumps! Blow off the sanded release dust (in good ventilation or outside), and give it a quick swipe with a DRY paper towel or facial tissue before sticking it in the flame and making your bead.
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2012-09-22, 6:32pm
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I don't recommend my FosterFire be used that way. It will crack. Hmm. Maybe Fusion or Arrow Springs Blue Sludge line of releases.
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2012-09-23, 6:25am
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I double and sometime triple dip most days using Fusion bead release and have never had a problem. Like DeAnne, I don't dry between dips, I dip all the mandrels I'm going to use then straight away go back and double dip. Hope it works for you.
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2012-09-23, 1:27pm
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Agree with the foster fire double dip don't. Some releases seem like they are puffy, that is one of them. I mix super blue sludge with foster fire and it takes a beating, it's smooth and can be thick or thin.
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2012-09-23, 2:09pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsanityBeader
I was curious if anyone has redipped mantels to get a few extra centimeters. I have some wine stopper blanks that are a bit bigger than my largest mandrel so I was thinking I could dip the mandrel extra to get to the size I need. Was curious if anyone was able to do this successfully.
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I have double-dipped with success, but your not going to get centimeters!
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2012-09-23, 4:45pm
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What is the size of the needed hole?
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