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Old 2016-05-27, 4:00am
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Default shorts - how much to charge per lb?

About what should I charge per pound of shorts? It will be a mix of 104.
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Old 2016-05-27, 4:51am
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I've seen mostly around $5 a lb. With little or no clear, white, black etc. I suppose speciality glass and size of shorts matter also. Are the shorts piling up? I've got a ton too.
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Old 2016-05-27, 7:14am
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Its quite remarkable how they're piling up. I don't know why I'm not capable of using them. Lol
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Old 2016-05-27, 10:46am
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Would shorts be good for someone just starting out (very new) to practice with or would they be too difficult to work with at first for a beginner.. also would it be a cheaper way to practice... just curious
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Old 2016-05-27, 11:01am
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Would shorts be good for someone just starting out (very new) to practice with or would they be too difficult to work with at first for a beginner.. also would it be a cheaper way to practice... just curious
Shorts are great to practice with. I bought a bunch of Boro shorts that I keep using until I feel I'm good enough to melt the full Boro ( expensive ) rods.

104 is cheaper, but the idea still applies. If you're a beginner ( like me ), you should be more worried about figuring out the techniques of what you're doing than the colors being perfect. Shorts let you practice AND use colors and not have to worry about wasting $$$ on your early works.

You can use your torch to weld the shorts into longs if you want longer rods to work with or weld them to the end of clear rods.

Shorts be good.

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Old 2016-05-27, 11:03am
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Would shorts be good for someone just starting out (very new) to practice with or would they be too difficult to work with at first for a beginner.. also would it be a cheaper way to practice... just curious
If you know how to attach two shorts together then it could be a cheap way to learn and practice. It also depends on how short the pieces are.
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Old 2016-05-27, 11:09am
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sharpcanoe, I'm a total cheapskate, so I'd probably buy shorts myself, then melt a couple together to make them longer. I'm also fairly new at this & I can't see spending a lot for nice long rods at this point. I find shorts are fun to use for twisties & wig wags. (I need work on those.) It's great to have a large variety for such things.

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What would be the shortest short that someone should buy to practice with.. is there a standard length...like 3 inches or more?
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Old 2016-05-27, 7:24pm
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Depends on how sensitive your fingers are! I've gotten down to about 2 1/2 inches, then I grab my pliers or hemostat, whatever's handy. I'm still on my HH because I had a stockpile of 12 gas cylinders to use up before I could transition to propane on my Minor. I don't know if that will change anything...
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Old 2016-05-27, 7:32pm
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When you melt two shorts together, they can become shocky at the joint. Someone said when you join them together, pull apart slightly to make the joint thinner than the actual rod, then let them cool this way. This is supposed to prevent or reduce the shockiness.
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Old 2016-05-27, 7:49pm
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When you melt two shorts together, they can become shocky at the joint. Someone said when you join them together, pull apart slightly to make the joint thinner than the actual rod, then let them cool this way. This is supposed to prevent or reduce the shockiness.

Yep this works real well. I use my shorts for small spacers, too
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Old 2016-05-28, 10:08am
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I use a rod holder till the bitter end, then pull stringers. That's cut way down on my short accumulation.

But, I bought a lot of DH shorts - and they're squirreled away till I move up to a big-girl torch.
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Aye, I have no shorts because I weld that segment on to the end of the new rod of that color.

If it is at all shocky it gets pulled into stringer.
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Old 2016-05-31, 9:48am
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I just weld the stupid things back together into longer pieces?
You can flame anneal them and cool them that way or kiln anneal.
Might make sense just to weld them while they are still hot and use
them up that way.

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Old 2016-05-31, 12:20pm
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The only reason I have shorts is impatience. Then I want a color I only have as a shorty. Out come the giant hemostats from Harbor Freight and I can use the entire short.

Sometimes I quit buying a color to force myself to use shorts.
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Old 2016-06-02, 10:57am
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When you melt your short ends together, make sure they are good and melty and then mash and twist them together so they create a bulge, and then as they are starting to harden up from being in the flame, slowly pull them away from each other until the joints is a little thinner than the rods themselves. If interested, I can record myself doing this later on today, so there is a video reference.
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