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Old 2009-10-26, 11:47am
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Question "Dragons Breath"/ "Jelly Opal" glass

I collect vintage "Dragons Breath" glass jewelry and cabs and have been trying to figure out how the glass was made. The glass was also refered to as mexican opal but it is only glass that was popular in the 1930's give or take. A lot of new mexico(?) tourist jewelry was made out of it and now it is very desirable and difficult to find. The glass is usually lightbrown in color with an inner blue,purple and/or red "fire" within. It appears to me that a first layer of glass was laid down then some sort of metal fume(?) or silvered glass was laid down on top of that, then a large layer of light brown or maybe even clear is applied atop to create a large dome. I'm just quessing at this process as I can't find much info on the process. The final product is quite beautiful and magical looking- like dragons breath. Does anyone have any ideas? I would appreciate any ideas before I start experimenting and no doubt wasting lots of glass. I'm sorry I've no pictures to show but if you try ebay and enter dragons breath in jewelry you can see what I'm talking about. Thanks for any ideas-Joan
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Old 2009-10-26, 12:33pm
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Not a clue but it sounds really interesting!
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Old 2009-10-26, 1:36pm
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Ooooh - you might ask the vintage button collectors. They are great resources for info on some of these older costume type "jewels."
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Old 2009-10-26, 3:06pm
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I have a suggestion! Have you seen the GT Silver Glass called "Mountain Honey"? You can see my "tips" on how to use it and evoke the color effect in Post #4 of this thread, but I'll throw a couple pictures here too. Check it out: http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...mountain+honey













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Old 2009-10-26, 5:59pm
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Thanks De- mountain honey is a good suggestion as a component. Thanks! Joan
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Old 2009-10-26, 7:59pm
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I looked at some of the stuff on ebay, and I think it would be pretty easy to reproduce similar using some dichro and/or Mountain Honey/Olympia Rain/Aion under amber coloured glass.
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Old 2009-10-27, 5:12am
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If your looking for vintage cabs made of it, I can keep an eye out for it during my vintage warehouse buying jaunts -- one of my suppliers has a whole room just of vintage glass and gemstone cabs.
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Old 2009-10-27, 5:41am
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WOW! I never heard of that before but it is beautiful!!! I'm watching a couple of pieces!
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I looked this up on eBay. What I found reminded me of a ring my grandmother used to have that looked as if it were bits of foil under glass. I always used to wonder why she was wearing a ring with Christmas tinsel in it.

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Old 2009-10-27, 7:52am
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I looked at the Dragon's Breath pieces on ebay and thought of these when I saw the amber/brownish ones. These are Copper dichro on amber, but you could probably use Copper/clear as it's more readily available. The dichro was encased with either Straw Yellow or Handpulled Brown transparent (can't remember which one) and the swirls are Olympia Rain stringers applied in a slight reducing flame.

TAG made a 104 glass that was called Jelly Opal and it would get the purplish/rosy colors if the moon was in the right phase, your tongue was just so and well.....I got it to do it's jelly opal thing just once. lol
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Old 2009-10-27, 9:57am
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Thanks De- mountain honey is a good suggestion as a component. Thanks! Joan
yep - any of the amber-purple glasses will do this, in boro or 104.
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Old 2009-10-28, 11:03am
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Thanks everyone for all of the input! I would appreciate it Donna if you did keep an eye out for any of the old pieces- I wish there was someplace like a bead warehouse around here-(I think I would be in heaven and very poor!!!). Great thoughts and recipes! Thanks again ,Joan
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