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Old 2008-02-16, 10:10am
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I'm getting ready to move up from a HH. I will be storing the propane tank ouside the basement so I need to bring the hose through the wall. Has anyone done this? If so, how or what did you use to do it. Our basement is unfinished and has aluminium siding on the outside. Its unlikely that we will finish the basement anytime soon. The prop tank will sit directly outside where I will be working so the run isn't far. We will cover it with a plastic garbage can for protection.

thanks for any suggestions you can give me.
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Old 2008-02-16, 10:16am
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I'm getting ready to move up from a HH. I will be storing the propane tank ouside the basement so I need to bring the hose through the wall. Has anyone done this? If so, how or what did you use to do it. Our basement is unfinished and has aluminium siding on the outside. Its unlikely that we will finish the basement anytime soon. The prop tank will sit directly outside where I will be working so the run isn't far. We will cover it with a plastic garbage can for protection.

thanks for any suggestions you can give me.
You might look here...

http://www.artglassanswers.com/forum...opic.php?t=208

Approved "metallic piping" may include steel, iron, copper or "red brass" piping. All connections should be of the threaded variety or flared type if using soft copper tubing. Compression style fitting are a no-no...

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Old 2008-02-16, 11:17am
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Dale, DH really liked your illistrations of how to bring in a gas line. However, what we were really thinking about was just something to bring the hose through like a PVC pipe setup. Using the hose connected to the propane tank and simply bringing it through the unfinished basement wall just outside.

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Old 2008-02-16, 3:20pm
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Dale, DH really liked your illistrations of how to bring in a gas line. However, what we were really thinking about was just something to bring the hose through like a PVC pipe setup. Using the hose connected to the propane tank and simply bringing it through the unfinished basement wall just outside.

thanks,
No-no....

Its illegal to sleeve wall and run rubber hose through.....

It's covered under National Fire Prevention Association (NFPA) Part 54 and 58...

http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/li..._standards.asp

You can scroll down and Review document for free.... So don't be put off about having to purchase a copy of codes..

Also suggested reading by you and hubby....

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412

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Dale, I had previously read the other thread. One of the main reasons I plan on keeping the small bbq propane tank outside. Now, we both sat here and read the code (and they say the IRS code is a mess) and I am no interpreting it to say what you are saying. Mainly because of this statement:

"This code shall not apply to the following items (reference standards for some of which appear in Annex L): (1) Portable LP-Gas equipment of all types that are not connected to a fixed fuel piping system "

Mine is not connected to a fixed fuel piping system, it is a bbq size tank of propane.

According to Section 58 defines what constitutes LP gas-in this case the type used for outdoor cooking appliances.

Am I missing something?
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Jan, I am so far from a safety expert I might be directing you to the wrong issue. I think part of the problem is the possibility of the rubber hose wearing in the sleeve and the propane pooling in the basement. Does the link address which level of the floor the propane is being used? Also since I see you are in GA can you run it through a basement window? Of course, remember I'm not a safety guru and this might not be safe. I was just thinking if you put it in and out the window, then you could check it for wear and tear and it isn't an installation.

I'm sure Dale or Mike will pop in and correct the flaws in my logic ~and there may be some. Good luck.
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Dale, I had previously read the other thread. One of the main reasons I plan on keeping the small bbq propane tank outside. Now, we both sat here and read the code (and they say the IRS code is a mess) and I am no interpreting it to say what you are saying. Mainly because of this statement:

"This code shall not apply to the following items (reference standards for some of which appear in Annex L): (1) Portable LP-Gas equipment of all types that are not connected to a fixed fuel piping system "

Mine is not connected to a fixed fuel piping system, it is a bbq size tank of propane.

According to Section 58 defines what constitutes LP gas-in this case the type used for outdoor cooking appliances.

Am I missing something?
Picking one statement out of context does not justify what you are trying to do.... Read the part where is says use metallic piping to bring fuel gas into a residence....


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I wasn't picking one statement, only using it as an example.

Thanks for your help. I'm done.
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