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Old 2018-05-23, 1:32am
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I was cruising around Pinterest and found several pictures of Anouk Jasperse's whirlpool beads. Did she ever offer a tutorial of how to get that center? How the heck do you get the EXTREMELY fine lines on the center structure? I have been thinking about that for hours. Anyone have any ideas? Do I make a flat ribbon twisty kind of thing or a regular one maybe? Untwisted I think. It certainly can't be individual stringers, right? Come on people, give me some clues or Anouk's email maybe.
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Old 2018-05-23, 6:17am
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Are you on Facebook? Maybe ask her there if she has a tutorial?

https://www.facebook.com/Anouk-Jaspe...3713969640242/
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Old 2018-05-23, 6:18am
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Maybe it would be better to contact Anouk directly?

https://www.facebook.com/Anouk-Jaspe...3713969640242/

Out of respect for her personal techniques, I would not give out that information, even if I knew.
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Old 2018-05-23, 8:30pm
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Dix, if you would read my original message I did not ask anyone to tell any of Anouk's secrets. I asked people for their opinions about how to achieve a "look". Chiding me is disrespectful. Your prissy response is the main reason this site has lost so many readers. I am not on facebook. i guess i am out of luck.
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Old 2018-05-23, 8:53pm
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She has her email listed on her Facebook page, so I think it is okay to post it here: ajasperse@hotmail.com
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Old 2018-05-23, 8:53pm
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She also lists her page on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/anoukjasperse
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Old 2018-05-24, 2:23am
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To ask for a certain technique is what this section stands for.
I'm sure there' re certain very personal secrets out there but I doubt this is one of them.
Della, I'm not sure what you mean exactly but if it's a look like this in one of my beads I can give you some advice.

I saw this technique in a japanese book ones.






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Old 2018-05-24, 7:09am
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For the record, I did not “chide” you.

If you were simply asking about a certain technique, why didn’t you describe the technique or post a photo and leave Anouk’s name out of the post?

Or, you could have simply asked for Anouk’s contact info.

“Come on people, give me some clues,” was your plea.

If it’s a widely-used technique, you’ll find out soon enough.
If it is not, I stand by my statement that you should go straight to the source.
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Old 2018-05-24, 6:03pm
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Elke, even if that is not what the OP is looking for, I would love some tips on that technique. I've wondered about fine lines in beads, I can't seem to do the twisties right...I thought perhaps it depends on reactive glass? Very pretty beads.

Della, it is a common thing to not give out personal techniques of another lampworker. And folks can say that if they are not sure if it is common knowledge or not. Asking for advice on techniques has become very risky and I do think it discourages questions from newcomers. Sort of a case where you both are right. Don't take it personal.

And you would have your reasons why you would not want to get on FB, but there is lots of glass melting chat there. If you do want to try, here is a good group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/lampworkbeadmaking/
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Old 2018-05-24, 7:05pm
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Elke, even if that is not what the OP is looking for, I would love some tips on that technique. I've wondered about fine lines in beads, I can't seem to do the twisties right...I thought perhaps it depends on reactive glass? Very pretty beads.
Me too! I have seen this on the cover of some book that I can never get. It might be the Tonbo Dama one.
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Old 2018-05-24, 7:26pm
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Me too! I have seen this on the cover of some book that I can never get. It might be the Tonbo Dama one.

And I have that book, but can't remember. I need to go dig it out and see, I like the look a lot too.
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Old 2018-05-24, 11:51pm
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Elke, I appreciate your response. I am not going to type much here right now, I am too angry. Your beads are gorgeous. I would love to have your opinions about this look. That is just what I was asking about.
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Old 2018-05-25, 2:54am
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This technique Della was asking about is nobody's secret.
She' s seen it in a bead from Anouk and yes maybe she could have asked in a different way.
But come on, all that fuss about who discovered what first. Who can claim that a certain technique was discovered only by them?
I'm not talking about secret recipes or bead styles.
I've seen beadmakers making money by writing tutorials about other peoples techniques.
There' re tutorials written about certain styles or recipes and I would never reveal those in public.
But I like to talk about techniques in a forum where people talk about their experiences and successes.
That's what makes art enjoyable.
If I' ve a certain style or some mysterious techniques and don't wanna get copied or people talking about ....hey then I need to stay quiet, don't show anything, don't write tutorials or give classes etc.
BUT the moment I put something on the internet for anybody to see there' s no more secret.
Don't get me wrong but I just won't get reminded all the time what I may ask or talk about in a forum of like-minded people.

For my shown beads I' ll give advice how I found out to achieve that hairline look. I just need a few days to put it together.

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Old 2018-05-25, 3:04am
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Well said.

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Old 2018-05-25, 5:27am
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thanks so much Elke!
And Della, I meant to be supportive. In case it wasn't clear, if no one knows if it is a "taught" technique or a more common one, they will be more careful about answering. No one wants anyone offended. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. Since Elke uses the technique and is comfortable with (graciously!) sharing, then that's a win!
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Old 2018-05-25, 12:32pm
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Dearest Elke, You have lifted a weight from my heart.
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Old 2018-05-25, 6:50pm
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It looks like a bunch of filigrana's pulled and folded repeatedly until you get the fine lines look.
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Old 2018-05-26, 10:22am
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So, here it comes:

Melt a gather of clear glass and shape into a cylinder.
Apply 4 lines in your choice of colour.
A stiff glass like Triton or Gaia will work best.
If you like white and thin lines, light ivory works better than white glass.
I tried white but often it faded away until my bead was finished.
Melt in the 4 lines and twist and pull into a twisty.
If you twist strongly the lines will be narrower later on.
Keep the twisty warm on top of your kiln.
Make a small disc shape bead about 12 mm in diameter and 8 mm thickness.
My first shown bead has a base of Hyperion and a Triton twisty.
The 2nd one has a black base and Triton twisty.
Take your preheated twisty and gently push it onto your bead in one wrap.
Melt in slowly…..the twisty should now cover the whole bead.
Encase the whole bead with clear (if you used silver glass for your twisty reduce briefly before encasing).
Repeat the clear encasement at least 4 times and shape your bead into a cylinder while it's hot after every single encasement.
It's your choice to keep the bead cylindrical or squeeze into a lentil or add more clear for a round bead.
Just try out and play around with different colour combinations.
There are no bounds to the imagination and everyone can find the colour they need to realize their design ideas.
Feel free to ask further questions because I'm not sure if my babble will be understandable to everybody.

Have fun and show some of your results.

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Elke, that bead you pictured is beautiful.
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Thank you for the step-by-step!
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Old 2018-05-26, 8:46pm
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Well, that makes perfect sense. Thank you very much Elke. I will play with that in about two weeks (new glasses coming). I won't post anything though because I do not have the equipment necessary to post pictures. Vielen Dank!
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Old 2018-06-10, 2:58am
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Hi Elke,
thank you for putting up the explanation, but I can not see a picture of the bead? Has it been removed?

Thanks, Petra
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Old 2018-06-10, 6:31am
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Hi Elke,
thank you for putting up the explanation, but I can not see a picture of the bead? Has it been removed?

Thanks, Petra
I can still see the pictures. Are you on a tablet or phone? Sometimes I cannot see them on devices, but can on my laptop. No clue why. And I can see these on my phone. They are not in the post with the DIY - they are earlier in the thread.
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Hi, I'm not often at LE but I came by this thread. I don't have a tutorial about the technique available, sorry! Isn't it the best fun to try stuff out and maybe invent something "new"?
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Your absence is felt Anouk.

Thanks for checking in.
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Where can I buy your older tutorials? I don’t see then on Etsy anymore.

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Old 2018-10-01, 9:03pm
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Weird reply.

Elke, you say to melt into a cylinder, can't you just stripe up a rod since it's a cylinder already? And, thank you.
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Of course you can do that. If it's a fat rod there should be no problem.

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Thank you for your step by step. Call me stupid.... I am a relative newbie. Are you wrapping the twistie once around the bead, or "around the world" until the bead is covered? Why do we not see the twisted colours, only straight lines? Thanks.
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where does the white or ivory come in if we are only using 4 stripes, is it 2 silver glass and 2 white?
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