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Old 2007-05-16, 10:14am
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Old 2007-05-16, 11:14am
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ellyloo, work them hot and keep them hot or they go opaque and lose their translucent quality.
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WOW Renee! I am another one of those "Not pink" people, BUT WOW! I had to get a lb of this glass! Now I can't wait to get it and melt it! And thanks for the tip about working hot!
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Old 2007-05-16, 4:35pm
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Hi Nancy! Thanks! When you play with it, remember the "keep it hot the whole time" part. On the beads that I took away from the flame after getting pretty hot , turned opaque with reheating. Hot, cool, reheating, made opaque beads. The opaque look is pretty too, but I love the glow with the translucent. I batch annealed all the beads and what they looked like going into the kiln is what they looked like coming out.
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Old 2007-05-16, 5:15pm
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Default Rose Quartz and Blush

We recently introduced a new color called Blush.

Blush is the same tonality as Rose Quartz. It is still an opal but is more likely to stay transparent or translucent depending on the size of the piece (worked longer will lean more towards translucent than transparent).

Most people who use Rose Quartz find that it is easy to turn opaque if worked for any length of time. RQ only seems to stay translucent if worked quickly, such as for spacers.

This paddle is Blush- it's hard to see clearly but it is transparent with a bit of misty cloudiness there in the center.

If you are going for the translucent effect and plan to make anything other than spacers, I would recommend going for Blush, not Rose Quartz.

Hope that helps.

Renee, those beads are fabulous. They do glow like gemstones!
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Renee ~ NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2007-06-02, 10:36am
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Whoo Hoo got my CIM glass today and I'mm off to melt some!!!!
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Kathy very graciously sent me a sample of CIM glass out here to lonely Australia and the lampworkers I've shared it with have gone wild over it. I have made the most delicious blue tone frit using Celandon, Leaky Pen, French Blue and Effetre/Moretti Turquoise Chiaro (alabastro), Turquoise Chiaro (pastel) and Lapis Medio (pastel) The frit was used over a base of Effetre/Moretti Bianco (pastel) and blended beautifully. Celandon is the perfect lift for blue based frits. It's just the right medium green/blue tone to add depth. I annealed it just fine, although I do already anneal rather higher than most people at 520 degrees Cel with a soak of 45 minutes. I LOVE bordello and particularly love pulling it into encased goldstone stringers, ditto with peacock. When I get a moment from uni studies I will post my efforts.

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wow, great pictures all.
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I did some last night in Gelly Pink and will have to take some pics tonight for you. I LOVE the Pink but if it is heated too much it can oxidize
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I had to hijack this thread to say that Sangre ROCKS! I just got some on Friday from Gail (GGGlass) and played with it yesterday. It's a LOVELY intense mostly-transparent, luscious shade of red. It has no striking problems! I need to take some pix, but I just had to jump in and sing its praises. Thank you, Kathy and Messy Color, for adding to my rainbow!
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Old 2007-10-23, 2:51pm
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I have been hearing good things about Sangre. Care to post a pic Karen?
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Old 2007-10-28, 3:47am
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totally agree. The Sangre is the most easiest color to get. I haven't tried the clockwork but its a beautiful shade of orange.
Any hints on how to bring out all the colors in the Canyone De Chelly?
Oh and Kathy...where did you come up with the name "Clockwork"
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LOL Reenie....there's a movie from 1972, with a very adorable, very young Malcom McDowell, called A Clockwork Orange. Trippy flick by Stanley Kubrick.
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totally agree. The Sangre is the most easiest color to get. I haven't tried the clockwork but its a beautiful shade of orange.
Any hints on how to bring out all the colors in the Canyone De Chelly?
Oh and Kathy...where did you come up with the name "Clockwork"
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Yes I'll take ANY tips on Canyon De Chelly! Please!
Me three!
I can't get the colors I've seen from a few other beads all I get is a putty color.
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Yes I'll take ANY tips on Canyon De Chelly! Please!
I've got pics here- I love the color in the hollow best- it's worked really cool. I also like ti etched

Worked as stringer mine looks tan

I use it in organics as the last color on or near to it since I really cook my organics. It doesn't pit or anything- just doesn't keep as many color variations
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Jessica I have seen your tips section many times and I think it is great! But I think I need the "slow learner's" version.
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Old 2007-11-02, 10:12am
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"Clockwork" was named after the movie by Tim at Frantz Art Glass (thanks, Tim, for the name!). There is a misty / opalescent quality to it that makes it different than your standard transparent orange.

Our testers have had WIDELY varying results with Canyon de Chelly. I posted photos here to demonstrate:

http://www.creationismessy.com/color.aspx?id=6

Unfortunately, there has been no consistency in the feedback to pinpoint exactly how to achieve a particular result. Like most silver colors, Canyon de Chelly has great potential but is extremely unpredictable.

There were two testers who reported achieving hues of pink and purple as they "flashed" the bead in the flame after completing it.

But most people reported that they saw a variety of colors as they worked, including pink and purple, but the colors disappeared by the time they finished the bead.

I'm sorry I cannot provide more conclusive feedback!

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Jessica I have seen your tips section many times and I think it is great! But I think I need the "slow learner's" version.


The best colors I get I put the rod in the flame, the mandrel below the flame and let the glass flow onto the bead - don't melt in- since it's runny when it lands it's already puddled up on the bead. Then when the bead is done, run through the top of the flame to rewarn the whole thing before kilning

In an organic, I add multiple colors- cdc is almost always towards the end of the colors. Then I consider it a striker - I do think it looks best etched if worked hot
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Hi,
this is a lightbulb moment for me: I did not know that messy had different annealling temps. I have used leaky pen and bordello and just mixed them in with my moretti or lauscha and then garaged at 960! so because all of this kiln stuff is new to me should i be concerned about the beads that were made with them? Are they truly annealled and will they crack or break later? i understand now that i need to up the temp for messy so i printed out the annealing temps for all colors but could someone let me know about the beads i have already made? thanks so much!!!

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I haven't had any problems mixing mine and annealing them at moretti temps.I do make sure they go in the kiln nice and hot though.
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I did not have trouble with the ginger and bordello but i do have a rod of peacock green and i am assuming that i should not use lauscha to encase this? maybe i should use the effetre newer clear or the vetrofond because they are closer to messy than lauscha. which vetrofond should i use, i got a pound of it free in my batch and it scums little bubbles is there a newer clear?
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Im absolutly am in love with CIM glass,,,,,all of it the colors are glorious and the glass is beautifull to work with.Keep it coming!!!!! Sorry no pics computor ,camera challenged,


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Karen I'm right there with you! I haven't found a CiM color I haven't liked yet!
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I use Cirrus also as an encasing color, but my bead with DH Khaos and encased with Cim Cirrus had incompatibility cracks all over !
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LOL I can't answer this poll, because I LOVE Gelly Sty and HATE Leaky Pen! Cannot lump them together LOL
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Leaky Pen makes a pretty stringer when you encase white with it!
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I love Gelly's Sty...it is an awesome shade of pink and I have NEVER "lost the color"...I use it a lot with rubino oro, simply berry and bubblegum pink to make twisted stringer...it looks awesome...
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