The GTT Scorpion - Page 14

absinthestudio · #**391** 2010-02-15, 9:49pm

JUST GET ON THE LIST ! It will be months before you get the CALL to pay for it

pam · #**392** 2010-02-16, 5:37am

Lisa, I have a Cheetah that I was using and so far - only one time torching on the Scorpion - I don't miss the triple-mix. I do think I need more time on the torch before I can give you a definite answer, though. Yesterday I only used black and the lustres, so I need to use some of the more sensitive colors, but I have a feeling it is going to be fine. It always amazes me the wonderful torches that GTT can develop. They seem to me much more efficient in their use of both fuel and oxy and the flame chemistry seems to always be top notch.

Oh, and thanks everyone for the comments on the beads. They aren't the greatest as I really was just trying out the torch to see if it could handle the size beads I do.

Kirima · #**393** 2010-02-16, 6:16am

Even my Scorpion is on it's way now: I've got a tracking number!

Wow, Pam, your beads are amazing!

Thanks for posting them here!

Imaglassgal · #**394** 2010-02-16, 6:33am

That's great news!

yeepers · #**395** 2010-02-16, 6:35am

Just emailed in my order yesterday

I can't wait until it's ready. Only problem is I have to choose a color!! Oh my goodness. How to decide??

getdul981 · #**396** 2010-02-16, 8:26am

You people have given me Torch Envy and I went ahead and placed an order. Will have to sell a bunch of pendants to get the money to pay for it now.

IF-Designs · #**397** 2010-02-16, 8:38am

WHen i got an email back about the scorpions it was right after they started shipping they said they wouldnt be able to give me a date on when it would be ready so I think if you order one now it may be a while before you get it

divelement · #**398** 2010-02-16, 9:14am

I would love a review and comparison(pictures) between how fast the GTT LYNX and the new Scorpion work Boro. I'd really like to know about working 1.5 " Boro marble how they compare. I like the convenience of running oxy-cons which saves my back from moving k tanks around so kind of limited on how big the torch can be but I want to step up from my Nortel MM but not sure to go with Lynx or the Scorpion.

papimom · #**399** 2010-02-16, 9:58am

Torch envy is full blown. I NEED a foot pedal. Yes, I broke down and put my name on the list for a Scorpion.
Joan

pam · #**400** 2010-02-16, 10:17am

If my main goal in life is to use boro, then I would definitely get a Scorpion over a Lynx. It will be much faster than a Lynx, qualifying that to say, in my opinion. I would love to hear of someone who works boro all the time give a comparison.

artwhim · #**401** 2010-02-16, 10:27am

Question for those of you using it on a foot pedal and oxycons:

Are you able to set your oxy level and be happy with it both when just the Cricket is running and when you rage the outer ring? I love the idea of the footpedal, but worry it might be too big of a sudden draw on the oxy when not using tanks.

tgslampwork · #**402** 2010-02-16, 10:57am

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Originally Posted by artwhim

Question for those of you using it on a foot pedal and oxycons:

Are you able to set your oxy level and be happy with it both when just the Cricket is running and when you rage the outer ring? I love the idea of the footpedal, but worry it might be too big of a sudden draw on the oxy when not using tanks.

Hey - when'd you get in my head?!

Trey Cornette · #**403** 2010-02-16, 11:44am

A holding tank will cure any problems.

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Originally Posted by artwhim

Question for those of you using it on a foot pedal and oxycons:

Are you able to set your oxy level and be happy with it both when just the Cricket is running and when you rage the outer ring? I love the idea of the footpedal, but worry it might be too big of a sudden draw on the oxy when not using tanks.

lripster · #**404** 2010-02-16, 3:58pm

Thanks, Pam. That's good to know. I keep going back and forth on the fence, but now I"m really excited to get mine. Last night I made a fairly large boro murinni (my initials) and really wished I had a more penetrating heat. It sounds like the Scorpion will do much better than my Bullet.

And thanks to everyone else reporting on this torch. It's great info and it sounds like it's put a few more folks on the Scorpion list.

Trey Cornette · #**405** 2010-02-17, 11:37am

UPS just delivered my Scorpion!!!

pam · #**406** 2010-02-17, 1:35pm

All right, Trey. Can't wait to hear your impressions.

mtarara · #**407** 2010-02-17, 1:39pm

Mine came today too!!! I have to wait until this weekend to set it up (pout)! Can't wait to play, its so pretty!!!
Mary T.

Chelladisegni · #**408** 2010-02-17, 3:47pm

I just got mine today! What color did everyone get?
Marianne

mtarara · #**409** 2010-02-18, 11:35am

I got the purple because its my favorite color!!
Mary T.

silvergypsy · #**410** 2010-02-18, 3:17pm

So.... Has anyone who got theirs tried it yet???? Would love to hear what you have to say.......

getdul981 · #**411** 2010-02-18, 3:46pm

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Originally Posted by silvergypsy

So.... Has anyone who got theirs tried it yet???? Would love to hear what you have to say.......

Have you READ this thread?

Elizabeth Beads · #**412** 2010-02-18, 4:01pm

I called a couple of weeks ago and put my name on the list - right after my class with Trey.

GTT said they'd have my torch ready to test by mid-March.

That may be pie in the sky, but it's possible that now that they are in full production mode, the wait time will be shorter.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed anyway.

I'm happy on my Nortel for now but I know I want more optionality eventually. I'm not usually very patient, so here is my chance to PPP.

ArtcoInc · #**413** 2010-02-18, 6:17pm

Knowing of the backlog that GTT has, how many people would be willing to buy a Scorpion from a distributor at the full retail price, vs waiting months and months to get one at the introductory price?

Malcolm

getdul981 · #**414** 2010-02-18, 8:49pm

Personally, I'm not in a hurry. I've got to sell a bunch of pendants and wine stoppers so I'll be ready when they call.

Greg

Kirima · #**415** 2010-02-19, 4:08am

My Scorpion is finally here and I'm so very happy!

suzanne · #**416** 2010-02-19, 4:21am

whoohoo Kirima. mine is on her way as well, she's at customs as we speak

Trey Cornette · #**417** 2010-02-19, 11:55am

I have had a couple of days to play with the Scorpion. I think this torch is going to change the way bead makers think about torches. Being able to use a concentrator to feed the torch and he ability to hook this torch to a foot pedal really makes it a wonderful tool. You can be doing fine detail work with the small focused inner fire and using a foot pedal be able to hands free turn on the outer fire keep the bead hot in the outer fire. The inner fire can be focused down to a very tight pinpoint flame that is great for stringer work. The outer fire can be set anywhere from a big fluffy flame for keeping the bead hot during design work, I was able to make my large tabs easily and quickly,and then really cranked up for the penetrating heat that solid boro work demands. I was able to get a very hot penetrating flame on the torch at its max setting. I made a 1.5 inch clear boro marble very quickly and with no problems. I am sure larger marbles and medium size sculptural work are well within the reach of this torch for a patient user. The Scorpion is designed to run on O2 LPM's and PSI that are easily created with the more powerful concentrators or by ganging them up. I set my pressure down to 8 PSI for O2 an 3 PSI propane and to simulate a generator and the torch ran great. Although I was not able to replicate the LPM's of a generator I am sure it will operate within the volumes described by GTT.

I do find a couple of minor drawbacks to the Scorpion and I should bring them up. I find the base to be a bit light. I really wish it came with the heavier base of the Lynx. I also wish it came with hose tails attached like many other GTT torches. If I was going to order another one I would ask for both of these items and pay for the upgrade.
The last drawback that I have relates to my personal needs of the torch. I purchased this torch thinking it would become a travel torch for when I teach classes. Its small size would be a great advantage when trying to keep my checked bag under #50. The drawback is that the torch does not like to run as well at the higher PSI that many studios run on order to accommodate the large number of torches in the teaching facility. Anything O2 above about 15 PSI and the torch starts to lose some of the flame control that I like. I don't see this as a real drawback to the torch . I am actually asking it to do more than it was designed for. Because of this I do not think I will be able to use this torch for a travel torch.
All in all I find this to be a wonderful addition to the GTT family and I truly believe it will change the way we think about flame control and glass working in the home studio setting. If you order one be sure to get the 4 stud so hooking up a foot pedal is an option.

ArtcoInc · #**418** 2010-02-19, 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by Trey Cornette

The last drawback that I have relates to my personal needs of the torch. I purchased this torch thinking it would become a travel torch for when I teach classes. Its small size would be a great advantage when trying to keep my checked bag under #50. The drawback is that the torch does not like to run as well at the higher PSI that many studios run on order to accommodate the large number of torches in the teaching facility. Anything O2 above about 15 PSI and the torch starts to lose some of the flame control that I like. I don't see this as a real drawback to the torch . I am actually asking it to do more than it was designed for. Because of this I do not think I will be able to use this torch for a travel torch.

You can bring a small, fixed-pressure regulator that you can mount in-line on the gas hose. These are small, light weight, and don't cost much. Don't let this be the reason to stop you from using the Scorpion as your travel torch.

Malcolm

mtarara · #**419** 2010-02-19, 12:22pm

Thanks, Trey!! This is exactly the kind of info I've been itchin' to hear from you peeps that already have their torches set up. And your experience with the pedal is the exact reason I bought this torch, so YAY!!!
And Malcolm, you're da man!!! Always there with a quick solution!!
Mary T.

Trey Cornette · #**420** 2010-02-19, 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by ArtcoInc

You can bring a small, fixed-pressure regulator that you can mount in-line on the gas hose. These are small, light weight, and don't cost much. Don't let this be the reason to stop you from using the Scorpion as your travel torch.

Malcolm

True enough but my whole idea was to simplify and lighten the load. I had plans to building a mini foot pedal with smaller hoses, solenoids and fittings as well.
That may be getting a bit complicated when I can just continue using my Barracuda and Hot Ass Tools foot pedal.
When it comes down to it I would not be saving that much weight and would be giving up quite a bit of flame size.
I am sure I will have no problems passing this wonderful torch on to someone should I decide it won't work out for my application.