Spiral murrini

[theglasszone]

Hi Everyone!

I don't know if you all saw it in last night's S&T; Nancy posted a bead that took this technique a "step up" and made a "rose" murrini using this tutorial as a foundation (at least that was my inference from her post). I've written her a PM and asked if she would consider adding her tips and techniques on how to accomplish this, or maybe do an additional tutorial on how it's done. If she decides to keep this a "private" technique, though, I surely understand and I thank her for simply inspiring us to put our own individual spins on this great foundation she's given us!

If you'd like to see what I'm talking about, check Post #5 in this thread - it really is great:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99628

~De in CA

[nklt0]

Hi De,

LOL! Thanks for the compliment. I PMed you back!

You are correct the rose murrini is made with this murrini technique. As for the advanced tutorial, I'll have to find time to do them first since its not a 10 min job! In the mean time, I would LOVE to see what everyone made.

Here's the bead in question:


Cheers
Nancy

[veeanca]

Nancy will you be demo'ing this at the next Sydney bead meet?

[nklt0]

Hi Vanessa,

seeing as I did most of the demo last month, I think it's someone else's turn.

Cheers
Nancy

[gubnavnania]

Originally Posted by nklt0

Hi Vanessa,

seeing as I did most of the demo last month, I think it's someone else's turn.

Cheers
Nancy

Jan's turn

[tammydownunder]

Originally Posted by veeanca

Nancy will you be demo'ing this at the next Sydney bead meet?

This is why I was running between your photo tutorial and Nancy's spiral demo.

[Michelle Walsh]

Thank you! This is wonderful!

[theglasszone]

I'm thinking that if we can encourage Nancy to do a "paid" tutorial on the Rose Murrini (and maybe other variations on this cool spiral?), she'll reveal even more exciting possibilities. Everyone, line up behind ME!!!

Thanks for sharing Nancy! Maybe if time and encouragement allow...

~De

[Cherine Perrin]

Very cool technique. Thanks for sharing!

[nklt0]

Hi De,

Originally Posted by theglasszone

I'm thinking that if we can encourage Nancy to do a "paid" tutorial on the Rose Murrini (and maybe other variations on this cool spiral?), she'll reveal even more exciting possibilities. Everyone, line up behind ME!!!

LOL, you really really want the rose tut don't you? Alas, I don't think I'll have time to do a photo tut in the next few months.

Tell you what, post picture of two attempts with the spiral murrini and I'll PM you a written instruction.

Cheers
Nancy

[RyanTheNumberImp]

One of the best ways to make rose murrini I know of is in the Tonbo Dama book ( http://www.artcoinc.com/tonbo-dama_book.php ). It is the second picture from the top right, the pink and white gather. It is probbably hard to see, but a bead using the rose murrini is located at the very top rightish (white with pink and green).

That rose murrini is built by pulling "petal" cane and then combining them into the final rose murrini.

I can also think of a few other ways to make rose cane. You could try to make a spiral with a transparent and opaque color, but leave gaps in the opaque to make a "dashed" or broken spiral which might look like petals.
You could also start with a thin rod of transparent and paint on two or so petals, encase thinly, paint on more petals, encase, petals, (encase), and then pull.
I think the key in either case is to try to make the layers of transparent thin enough that your rose doesn't look empty.

[nklt0]

There you go De,

Originally Posted by RyanTheNumberImp

I can also think of a few other ways to make rose cane. You could try to make a spiral with a transparent and opaque color, but leave gaps in the opaque to make a "dashed" or broken spiral which might look like petals.

Ryan's giving you the secrete without you having to pay for it!

[theglasszone]

Ryan is the BOMB!!!

He makes such amazing murrini!!! I do have the Tonbo Dama book - and have seen that Rose Cane as it's made there...until recently, I've been working strictly on a Hot Head and didn't have a good enough hot plate to be able to keep murrini or, in the case of the rose, strips of flat ribbon cane hot enough to add to a built cane.

I should definitely revisit this - and thanks for your offer, Nancy! I'll see if I can get it going on with the spiral....too many ideas, too little time!!!

Hugs to you both!
DeAnne in CA

[naom-s]

Thank you! This is wonderful!
Naomi

[nklt0]

Hi Naomi,
Glad you liked it!

Hi De,

Originally Posted by theglasszone

I've been working strictly on a Hot Head and didn't have a good enough hot plate to be able to keep murrini or, in the case of the rose, strips of flat ribbon cane hot enough to add to a built cane.

The good thing about this method is that it is very forgiving with thermo shock. The only time you need the heat is when melting the initial gather for the lolly-pop and doing the final melting before pull out. For the rest of the time, as long as you keep the ribbon shape (thin strip), you will not have any problem. As a matter of fact, I put down the whole ribbon after it was made and went to fiddle with the back ground to take some clearer photo for the tutorial (you can tell by the back ground for the ribbon pictures). After those photos are taken, I can touch the ribbon without been burned!

The only thing I will change for HH users is to use metal punties for the final pull. With the wide heat area glass puntie will melt and flop around before you are ready to pull.

Please everyone, give this a try and let me know any issues or problem that you have encountered. I will update the tutorial with additional tips if necessary.

Cheers
Nancy

[cadia]

Can't wait to try this thanks so much Nancy for posting!

[SunDoorBeads]

Great pics to go with a great tut!!! I can't wait to try this with the silver glasses I wonder what that would look like!!! Anyways thanks for a fun idea.
Michelle
www.sundoorbeads.com

[ziggys]

Thanks for the tutorial. I keep seeing murrini or thinking of patterns I would like to make and wonder "how would I do that?". I would never have thought of rolling up glass!!!

Thanks Ryan, for the extra tips on how to make one into a rose.

[Yvon]

Thanks for sharing such a wonderful tut - easy to follow, understand, and know what to expect. Nice to have the additional tips from others, too.

[JetAge Studio]

Nancy, I was just wondering how to make spirals, then I happened upon this tut!! Thank you so much! A very easy read. Thought I'd give it a go. This is what I got:


I just want to share my experience with helping to keep the spiral crisp. Lay down the murrini chip on to your base; do not melt it into the base as is. Put a drop of clear right on top of the chip, THEN melt it into the base. It's fun!
Thanks so much for this tut!

Renee Wiggins

[volkanokaren]

Thanks for the tip Renee !!!Nice beads as allways too.

Karen
Volkano Exotik

[nklt0]

Hi Renee,

Gorgeous bead!
Glad you enjoy the tutorial.

Cheers
Nancy

[Jinx Garza]

Cool method! Can't wait to try it tomorrow.

Jinx

[Athalour]

Thanks so much! Can't wait to try it.

[FourTailsLampwork]

I will try this--thank you so much for sharing!

[firegrl]

I cant wait to try this

[myrdlebp]

Oh!! Thank you so much for bumping this up! I was looking for it a couple of weeks ago!

[firegrl]

why oh why have I not tried this yet it is so cool

[Sue in Maine]

Yes, I'm just now seeing this, too! Can't wait to try it.

Sue

[nklt0]

Thanks everyone, glad you enjoyed it.

Here's a slightly better example in beads



Cheers
Nancy