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Old 2011-09-09, 12:01pm
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I am making my 1st real glass shopping list .. finally What are some colors that I must have in my stash , those go to colors that always get used Or just some that you think are special/reactive and just can't be without Thanks

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Old 2011-09-09, 12:27pm
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Black, white, Ivory, Clear in any coe.

Effetre; Copper green, opal yellow, EDP, turquoise, any greens

CiM: everything..LOL
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Old 2011-09-09, 12:28pm
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I have not tried Cim yet are those colors reactive at all ?
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Old 2011-09-09, 1:45pm
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Ok and If I get just one or 2 silver colors what would be the best suggestion for a Hot head torch?
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Old 2011-09-09, 2:36pm
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wow, good question about the hot head. you are always on "fully reactive mode" and if you use glass that moves from "oh my God, wow" to "monkey poop" in a blink of an eye since you over bathed it in propane......as i said, wow. i am anxious to see who says what about this myself. good question
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Old 2011-09-09, 3:01pm
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Clio. Helios. Striking Color. Opal Yellow, Silver Pink, Clockwork, Peace, Tuxedo, Red Roof Tile, Uranium Yellow Pastel, Red Copper Green, Copper Green, Rubino. Oh heck, all of them.
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Old 2011-09-09, 3:56pm
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Clio. Helios. Striking Color. Opal Yellow, Silver Pink, Clockwork, Peace, Tuxedo, Red Roof Tile, Uranium Yellow Pastel, Red Copper Green, Copper Green, Rubino. Oh heck, all of them.
No this is what I am afraid of ....
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Dark Ivory, Psyche, black, clear, clio...here's a cool tip for a newbie...clio over orange turns deep pink...clio over white stays pink, clio over black turns a really cool blue, clio over light blue turns purple... its a lot of bvang for the buck
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Old 2011-09-09, 5:00pm
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Dark Ivory, Psyche, black, clear, clio...here's a cool tip for a newbie...clio over orange turns deep pink...clio over white stays pink, clio over black turns a really cool blue, clio over light blue turns purple... its a lot of bvang for the buck
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Cara will this work on my little HH?
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Old 2011-09-09, 5:24pm
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If I had to pick only 2 blacks, I'd pick Hades and plain effetre black. If I could pick 3, I'd add Intense black.
Opal yellow, copper green, new Violet, Rubino, EDP, 444 brown, dark ivory, pale emerald green, all the ambers, gray trans and opaque, striking orange, striking red, olympia rain, clio, psyche...really I could go on.
Another must have for me is silver foil.
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Old 2011-09-09, 7:36pm
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Black, white, dark ivory, clear, Clio, Gaia, copper green, EDP- I must second the suggestion of silver foil, or silver leaf. That's a must have!
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Old 2011-09-09, 7:42pm
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Try Bella Donna's Black Diamond from Donna Milliron @ Arrow Springs as your go-to for fine stringer work.

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Old 2011-09-09, 7:53pm
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What do you want to make? That will determine what to buy and honestly there is not really one answer. I took a class and for her she used intense black in everything. Another needed opal yellow, etc etc.
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Pantry glass: Dark ivory, light ivory, CIM Hades, one rod of Intense Black, CIM Peace, Opal Yellow, Periwinkle, raku, and whatever clear I currently don't hate.

Everything else is seasoning and I love seasoning!
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Old 2011-09-11, 7:06am
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Silver foil/leaf, the foil is a little easier to work with but you can get way cooler reactions out of the leaf. Effetre Opaques: Ivory,White, Opal Yellow, Uranium Yellow, Dark and Light Sky Blue, Dark and Light Turqouise, Caribbean Sea, (these are my favorites but they can be a pain in the a**), Medium Lapis, Dark Pink, Coral Sunburst, Butternut, Dark Brown, and Gold Pink.

Effetre Transparents: All of the Topazes, All of the aquas,Dark and Light Teal, Pale Emerald Green, Dark Emerald Green, Ink Blue, Violet Ink Blue, Black Metallic (this is expensive but well worth the money in my oppoinion)

CIM Colors: Sangre, Clock Work, Elphaba, Dirty Martini, Kryptonite, Olive, Leaky Pen, Lapis, Pulsar, Mermaid, Atlantis, Heffalump, Plum, Egg Plant, Crocus, Canyon De Chelly, Ginger, Maple, Rose Quartz

Those are my favorites so far but that list contiunes to grow and change! If you follow my advice on glass you might go broke. Creation is messy at least has website where they post diffrent information about their glass so you can use that to help you narrow that list down at least. www.creationismessy.com. You can type the name of just about any color in the search engine of this website and find some information about it.
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Old 2011-09-11, 12:26pm
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Cara will this work on my little HH?
I'm not sure....i don't have a HH anymore and never had silver glass when I did....Are you getting any studio torch time at all? might want to save the silver glass for that???justa thought
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Old 2011-09-11, 4:38pm
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Both clio and echo work great on a hothead as far as silver glasses go. I use vetro clear for encasement and it works great too.
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Old 2011-09-11, 5:03pm
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Thanks Karen do you have any other glasses silver or reactive you know work good with a HH ?I am getting great color ideas from this thread Thanks everyone Keep them coming .
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Old 2011-09-11, 7:14pm
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Must haves:
White (prefer CiM Peace to Eff personally), Black (Reg Eff & Hades), Ivory light and dark, and Effetre Super Clear.

Colors:
Opal Yellow, Copper Green, Periwinkle, Lt and Dk Sky Blue, Lt. and Dk Turqoiuse, EPD, Violet, Petrol Green, Rubino Oro, CiM Elphaba, Sangre, Clockwork

Transparents - Topazes, Aquas, Emerald Green Lt and Dk, Grass Green, Ink Blue

Silver Glasses - Triton is nice to add easy 'bling', reduces easily. Clio is wonderful but no idea how it behaves on a HH. Aurae also adds a nice touch. Do love Ekho too. (To save money, try 2nds to start maybe?)

I agree with Cara. Silver glass and some premium colors can be VERY expensive. When I started out, I just got white, black, clear, and ivory...then whatever was on sale for cheap (I loaded up on $3-7/lb glass from Frantz lol).

Another idea is to look at some tutorials that interest you. Try to find a couple that look beginner friendly. Purchase those and see what colors are required. If you have a question on tutorials, PM me and I can recommend a few (I review tutorials for SLT, and my website...I have bought quite a few).

Hope that helps. Best of luck

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Old 2011-09-11, 8:07pm
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I'm still working on my HH after 5 years (yes yes I know...but I can't afford a torch and oxycon )

I would say for silver colours go with Psyche and Aurae. They are the best for your buck on the HH. They both work well and easily, and are not too dear.

For the standards, Black, intense black (just a little) white, clear in stringer for encasing and thicker rods for bead cores etc.

For basic base colours. Reichenbach opal raspberry for dark pink. any of the light pinks, opal yellow or ghee for pale yellow, Ivory, CIM glacier, Copper green. transparents are cheap and get whatever takes your fancy. I really like spring green. Rubino is a must. A range of the cheap pastel colours, greens yellows reds etc, a mixed pack is good for these.

EDP is named that for a reason, but it's the only bright purple. Devits like crazy for me on the HH. Violet does some funky things and violet transparent is a lovely purple when layered over white.

1mm Raku frit. You wont get deep colours on the HH but play around with it and it produces nice pastel pebbley effects.

If I had to list my top 10 used glasses...

1. clear stringer
2. black
3. white
4. raku frit
5. opal yellow
6. medium red
7. psyche
8. ivory
9. Rubino
10. greens

If I were you I'd get a couple of mixed packs of single rods, a bit of black white and clear and a rod or two of silver glasses. That way you can tell what you like to use and just reorder those in greater quantities.

I think I'm still using the same rods of orange and striking red and yellow from my starter pack!
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Old 2011-09-11, 8:16pm
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Do you have a kiln or are you batch-annealing? CIM doesn't batch-anneal well. I've had beads crack in half right off the mandrel even though they went into the vermiculite glowing.

I've also had CIM crack a year after making the beads, due to some slow-acting incompatibility, so if you do buy it you need to anneal it at a higher temp. This was according to the American rep for CIM.

As for must-have colours, I'll die if they ever quit making dark Ivory. Use any silver glass with it and get the greatest crackling effect.
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