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Old 2010-12-30, 8:02am
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Default Has anyone tried pickling clear glass?

Pat Frantz wrote an interesting blog post about a tip she learned from Larry Scott for getting rid of scum on clear glass. Has anyone here tried this? How'd it go?

How to get the Perfect Clear 104 COE Glass

http://frantznewsletter.com/?page_id=1714

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Old 2010-12-30, 8:37am
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I haven't tried that but it certainly looks interesting and it does make sense to me as pickling certainly cleans metals well.
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Old 2010-12-30, 8:50am
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I've read of non-toxic pickling solutions for metal that might work on glass, but I haven't tried them. One that I'd try first is heated vinegar saturated with salt (when the salt no longer dissolves in the solution, the solution is saturated). I'd try that route first. I have used straight vinegar to clean really dirty glass rods and that worked...

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I just searched again and the recommended mixture (at least for metal) is 1 TBSP salt to 1 Cup vinegar.

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Old 2010-12-30, 9:12am
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I've read of non-toxic pickling solutions for metal that might work on glass, but I haven't tried them. One that I'd try first is heated vinegar saturated with salt (when the salt no longer dissolves in the solution, the solution is saturated). I'd try that route first. I have used straight vinegar to clean really dirty glass rods and that worked...

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I used to (a million years ago) work on a cleaning crew that cleaned up newly installed stores in malls. Back in the day everything was mirrored and the clean up was a monumental task. What we used to get the mirror perfectly clean was a solution of 1/2 white vinegar and 1/2 distilled water. We'd spray it on and then wipe it off with newspaper. I clean my glass rods this way and it works well for me, something about the combination of the newsprint and the solution just makes glass sparkle and gives my newspaper a final use before hitting the recycling bin.
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Old 2010-12-30, 9:20am
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Larry still pickles his clear.
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Old 2010-12-30, 9:45am
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Anyone know the mixture ratio that Larry uses?
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Old 2010-12-30, 3:09pm
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Thanks Kim,
I'll probably try the 1/4 of the metal solution that Pat stated. It's been to cold for me to torch (I torch in the garage) so I thought I would try this out.
Take care!
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Old 2010-12-30, 6:41pm
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Larry told me that he used Sparex - it's a low concentration sulfuric acid solution. Vinegar is acetic acid and not very strong. What you're trying to do is dissolve out any metals or other materials that might be embedded in scratches in the glass. Sparex will likely do that, vinegar not so likely.

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I'd love to try these methods myself. Thanks everyone for posting!
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Old 2010-12-30, 9:04pm
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I just read the entry in Pat Franz's blog. So simple, even I could do it without wrecking the joint! (hopefully)

I admit to cringing quite painfully when she suggested doing this with ALL your rods, not just the clears or transparents. Just the thought makes me ill. I'd be pickling for weeks!

I admit I was very impressed to see her results with CIM clear at the bottom of the page. That is the scummiest clear I've ever used. If pickling can make it look like that, then I'm going to get started ASAP.
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You can get Sodium Bisulfate super cheap at Lowes or HomeDepot - look in the pool supplies. It is called PH Down. Just check the label to make sure it's SB - it can be a different chemical too.
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Old 2010-12-30, 9:50pm
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Wow, those results look dramatic!
Thanks Pat, excellent article.

I was just wondering if I could throw my clear rods into the dishwasher before I saw Pat's blog.
Has anybody tried that? Yay or nay?
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Now, as I went to sleep last night I had a question pop up in my head about this, and I checked the entry this morning to see if I was remembering correctly. The article states to get the solution up to 140 degrees F which is like a hot coffee -- doesn't water boil at 100 degrees F? Or is that Celsius? (or am I just being dumb?)
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100 Celsius

212 Fahrenheit

so 150 F is 65 C
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Thank you! I knew I was mixing things up.
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I wash ALL of my rods in the dishwasher before they get labelled and put away. I just use Cascade and load the washer - set it to Pots and Pans and High Temp. They come out beautiful!!
Does this mean that I could deduct a dishwasher as a business expense? I'm so tired of cleaning dishes...er, rods...by hand.

Great idea, really. Maybe I can finally convince myself that I really do need a dishwasher.


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Will this help even a clear with the worst reputation work better? Like new?
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Old 2011-01-03, 1:15pm
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Do you think I would need to dedicate a pyrex dish to doing this even if I use just vinegar and water?
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Will this help with glass that is scratched as well?
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I did this this past weekend with most of my transparent 104. Many many many trips up and down the stairs to the pickle bath. I must admit, it seems to have helped a lot.
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yes because it cleans out the scratches
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This is great information to have. Thanks for sharing it!
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Another little tip that has worked for me many times - after you have cleaned your rods, just before you are ready to use a rod, polish it up a bit on a piece of suede or the revese side (the rough side) of a piece of leather. It makes an amazing difference.
I have a welder's apron that I use, but you could go to goodwill and buy a ratty leather jacket and cut it up. The only thing you need is the rough side of the leather. Really works!
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I'm curious if anyone just runs some fine grade steel wool over the rods to clean them. It seems like it would take off at least the surface dirt & oils, but maybe not?
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All I can think when I see this thread pop up is...

wouldn't it be crunchy?

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I have spent hours doing this and it gives me time to label each rod. Can I just say that they are so sparkly and pretty.

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Can I add a question about cleaning glass? If ,after I pickle the glass, I get fingerprints will I need to repickle or can I just wipe it clean?
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I took a class with Heather Trimlett a few months ago, and she also recommended pickling the clear - and she was talking about Lauscha clear. I haven't tried it, but I'm sure I will some day. Thanks, as always, for all these great tips.
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yes because it cleans out the scratches
Thank you! I have some larger rods of CiM clear that came in scratched that I am going to try this on!
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If you do use Sodium Bisulphate have a look here.
http://www.poolkem.com/custom-1/Sodi...ta%20Sheet.pdf
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