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I finally put a few rods into the flame this afternoon. Like most everyone said earlier, the semi-opaques are a bit bubbly and the regular rods have to be heated slowly to avoid shocking. But I was overall very happy with the glass. Devardi is a bit stiffer than other glass so it's fantastic for using as a base when making floral beads. The base stays firm so you can manipulate the heck out of the flowers and surface designs. Will be buying lots more! Kas
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2009-02-01, 6:46pm
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Hi Natasha!
Do you have a list of the glass colors that are still available? I'd like to place another order but don't know what colors are still for sale. Thank you! Kathleen (KAS)
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Hi everyone. Thanks for all the suggestions. It's too bad we can't just beam the glass to people like they do on Star Trek. 
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2009-02-01, 11:43pm
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DD was thrilled with my packing.  She's been knitting little Japanese character figures (harajuku?) and jumped on the packing as stuffing. It certainly kept the glass secure.
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2009-02-02, 12:35am
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Cracks :(
Still no pictures -- can't stop buying glass long enough to save up for a new camera!!!
Have run into major problems with the first round of test beads that I did a couple of weeks or so ago. All of the beads had Devardi bases with various Effetre, Vetro, and silver glass added, and all were encased in the new formulation of Lauscha Soft Clear. All of them cracked! I'm having lots of trouble with cracks showing up in Lauscha encasing after two or three weeks in non-Devardi beads, too.
None of the beads that were Lauscha-less cracked, so at lease some of my pretties have survived. Well, one bead cracked, but it was the one that I stared at way too long before putting it in the kiln. oops!
Spent an evening pulling stringers and making twisties and striped cane for raised florals. Devardi is wonderful for stringer work! I'm madly in love with the way even skinny little 1mm stringers hold their shape and stay firm enough to apply without turning into blobs and splotches, which is my usual style of stringer decorations.
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2009-02-02, 6:01am
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Am I the only person who gets some sort of script error notice every time I try to view one of these auction listings?
I keep wanting to check out this glass but every time I run into this script it stalls my computer and just makes me close down that page.
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2009-02-02, 8:48am
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Hi Natasha,
The glass look great.
I know I am wierd but I hate ebay and paypal. Is there any plan in the future for a more conventional selling outlet?
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2009-02-02, 9:12am
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Am I the only person who gets some sort of script error notice every time I try to view one of these auction listings?
I keep wanting to check out this glass but every time I run into this script it stalls my computer and just makes me close down that page.
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I do too....it's not her auction, it's the scripts with IE. Just hit continue when it pops up the message, and it should load. It can be fixed, you might want to do a Google search on 'fixing script errors', or something to that effect.
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2009-02-02, 9:56am
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I have the script errors too on Firefox - I am on a Mac.
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2009-02-02, 12:21pm
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These are some of my sample beads made with Devardi Glass. It is a little stiffbut, I love it. It will work with other glass. On the pics, Devardi Black and TerraNova 2, Devardi Green, Coral, & silver ivory, Lt. Op purple with Mor. Transparent Purple and then incased, Devardi Dark Brown, Devardi Op. Red,Devardi Lt. Green and incased
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2009-02-02, 12:24pm
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I do too....it's not her auction, it's the scripts with IE. Just hit continue when it pops up the message, and it should load. It can be fixed, you might want to do a Google search on 'fixing script errors', or something to that effect.
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I use Firefox and am on a Mac. I generally tend to shy away from anything that runs a script especially if it generates an error. I don't get a script error with any other Ebay listings just these ones.
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2009-02-02, 12:56pm
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I'm on Firefox and I got the error. I just click the stop script and it loads the page. I can't see any difference between loading and not loading the script. Must be in the coding, I don't know.
Pretty beads Lawsons!
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Sorry I can't see the pictures ... got my glass today and having a devil of a job matching it up with the names. For instance I have two possibilities for smoke!
Yes please ... a small bundle bound in saran wrap with one label (I'd pay a dollar more a pound for that). I actually think the rubber bands were so tight they crushed the glass and I have shorts where the glass broke. At this price I won't grumble though and can marry the pieces back together.
I'll be doing some testing tomorrow - I'm home sick (no really I am)! Just making some basic spacers to see how it works and looking for those reactions I am so fond of! At first sight that semi opague green looks very promising color wise. I'll be looking for those colors that maintain that property (love semi op/trans glass).
As long as this glass is compatible I won't complain ... it's cheaper than clear and can be used as a base for beads if the colors don't inspire!
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2009-02-03, 11:15am
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I have to say that if none of the rods are labeled, that would be the deal breaker for me. I need at least one labeled rod from each color I order, so I know what I have, what I need to re-order etc. I pass up even dirt cheap glass that is not labeled. Any glass that loses its label in my studio is tossed out as soon as I find it and I do label every rod. I have to many types not to go that route. So evidently I won't be ordering as I planned to.
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2009-02-03, 1:08pm
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I was able to finally play with my glass. I should have purchased more! I liked the glass being a bit stiffer. For my current abilities it works great. The metallic black turned metallic very easy. Easier than Triton. I only had a few minutes so I did not turn on the kiln-just used my blanket. So the pretty bead I made had a thermal crack. But it was a mix of vetro, moretti and the devardi. There were no incompatibility cracks so far. I will keep it so that I can see if any show up.
The colors are pretty and the price is right! I will definitely order more after and if I survive tax season!
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2009-02-03, 3:28pm
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We are now labelling one rod per color. Thanks, Natasha
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2009-02-03, 4:00pm
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I was able to finally play with my glass. I should have purchased more! I liked the glass being a bit stiffer. For my current abilities it works great. The metallic black turned metallic very easy. Easier than Triton. I only had a few minutes so I did not turn on the kiln-just used my blanket. So the pretty bead I made had a thermal crack. But it was a mix of vetro, moretti and the devardi. There were no incompatibility cracks so far. I will keep it so that I can see if any show up.
The colors are pretty and the price is right! I will definitely order more after and if I survive tax season!
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Thanks Beth for the info and review. I hope you continue to have great fun and success. Best wishes, Natasha
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2009-02-03, 4:35pm
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Hi, just thought I'd post some feedback reviews that people have sent outside LE about our Devardi Glass. Thanks so much everyone. You can find these in more depth on eBay. Usernames have been removed here. Best wishes, Natasha
Fast shipping, and great products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Buyer:
( 1259) Feb-02-09 17:47
1lb Devardi Glass Rods Lampwork COE 104~OP Butterscotch (#320335136385) US
Really, really gorgeous glass, can't wait to see this one etched! Thanks!! Buyer:
( 137) Feb-01-09 19:36
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Tr Lt. Rose (#320333670741)
Gorgeous glass, great customer service! I'll be back! Buyer:
( 137) Feb-01-09 19:35
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Tr Burgundy (#320335431122) US
LOVE this glass!! Soooo much prettier and easier to deal with than the Moretti! Buyer:
( 137) Feb-01-09 19:34
1lb. Devardi Glass Rod Lampwork COE 104~Op Metallic Blk (#320333360076) US
This company has GREAT customer service! I highly recommend them! Buyer:
( 137) Feb-01-09 19:33
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Op Salmon (#320333359369)
I LOVE this color!! LOVE this seller too! I'll be back! Buyer:
( 137) Feb-01-09 19:31
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Op Olive (#320333359342)
Nice ! Great seller ! Fast shipping ! A+++++++ Buyer:
( 661) Jan-29-09 18:01
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampwork COE 104~Trans Amethyst (#320333105127) US
LOVE IT !!!!!! Will order again Buyer:
( 42) Jan-29-09 09:32
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Tr Lt Ameth (#320333670900) US
Seriously bright color! Buyer:
( 437) Jan-26-09 06:19
1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Trans Cit. (#320331383722) US
Excellent seller, great communication Buyer:
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1lb. Devardi Glass Rods Lampworking COE 104~Op Salmon (#320333105325
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Natasha if you are going to use the forum to sell you may want to consider becoming a vendor.
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Jealous ?????
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Are you serious YellowBird???
I only buy my glass from factories that do not use child labor.
For those of you importing and buying inexpensive glass you may want to read this:
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/report...weat/india.htm
Or let me make it easier for you:
From the above U.S. Labor website:
"Glass and Glassware
In 1992, India exported more than $2 million worth of glass and glassware to the United States.56 Estimates of the number of children working in the glass industry range from 8,000 to 50,000.57 The glass and glassware industry in India is concentrated in Ferozabad. The glass factories of Ferozabad produce a number of glass items, such as bangles, chandeliers, wine glasses, beads, crockery, bulbs, and cut glass items. The factories also produce test tubes, beakers, and laboratory glass products.58
The ILRERF Report referred to a glass-factory floor as Dante's "Inferno" due to the intense heat of the furnace (between 1,400-1,600 celsius), lack of ventilation, broken glass everywhere, dangling electric wires, and workers with no protective equipment (no shoes, gloves or goggles).59 Both adult and child workers stand outside furnaces dipping iron rods into molten glass, bringing it out, and throwing it to glass molders or blowers. Boys as young as 11 or 12 sit on the floor for long hours in front of the pot furnaces, melting and fastening glass bangles and beads.60 Often glass splinters injure the workers, and pieces of glass cut into the bare feet of the children. The children bump into each other as they have to run very fast before the molten glass can cool, and may scorch each other's bodies.
An earlier study in 1987 by Cox newspaper reporters found boys under 14 running from the furnaces to the glass blower carrying molten glass.61 The glass blower would then throw the hot iron pole, javelin style, to a child several feet below him, who would put water on it. The reporters observed children walking barefoot over glass littered floors, some with scarred eyes and burnt scalps.
In addition, children of the glass factories in Ferozabad suffer mental retardation,62 asthma, bronchitis, eye problems, liver ailments, skin burns, chronic anemia, and tuberculosis.63 A recent study by Dr. Asha Singh of the Maulana Azad Medical College in New Delhi revealed genetic damage in the body cells of the laborers working close to furnace heat for three years or more.64"
I sleep quite well at night knowing that I have nothing to do with this!
Paula
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Mmmmm. That's harsh. Its tough times for people at the moment and Paula is only trying the keep the forum tidy and abiding by the protocol. I am sure Natasha understands.
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2009-02-03, 5:41pm
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I ordered several pounds of this glass on Friday, 01-30-09, and it was delivered to my door on Monday, 02-02-09. From the state of Washington to Virginia. I have never ordered glass from any vendor and had it delivered that quickly. There was some breakage of mostly one color. I also think that this was due to the irregular rods and the rubber bands being to tight.
I played with the glass today. I like it. As others have stated it is a bit stiffer. I thoroughly abused this glass and did not get it to burn, bubble or loose color. I love the brown. OMG, for those of you who are looking for a dark choc brown, this is it. The white works nicely as a core, it does not bleed up on the edges of the transp. The Burgundy is very dense and looked best as stringer or as a light encasing over the white. The semi-op Marine is a lovely color by itself. I tried it with Dk Ivory. I really abused these two because I like the look of Dk Ivory over heated. This did make the color of the Marine a greener color and a dark center line in the Dk Ivory. V.272 works its magic as a base with stringer of Brown or Semi Op Marine. The stringer has a metallic edge. I was able to get the metallic fumed look but no edge with the Burgundy. I do not see any incompatibility cracks so far. None of the beads made have broken. I will post pictures when I get a chance to take them.
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I have to say that if none of the rods are labeled, that would be the deal breaker for me. I need at least one labeled rod from each color I order, so I know what I have, what I need to re-order etc. I pass up even dirt cheap glass that is not labeled. Any glass that loses its label in my studio is tossed out as soon as I find it and I do label every rod. I have to many types not to go that route. So evidently I won't be ordering as I planned to.
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ROB!!!
*some* of us would happily give your "mystery" cast offs a good home & use them for PPP spacers you know 
(lots of cash-strapped folks are willing to make special spaces for a little pile for "unknown coe soft glass" to use for practicing presses, or making spacers only!)
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I ordered several pounds of this glass on Friday, 01-30-09, and it was delivered to my door on Monday, 02-02-09. From the state of Washington to Virginia. I have never ordered glass from any vendor and had it delivered that quickly. There was some breakage of mostly one color. I also think that this was due to the irregular rods and the rubber bands being to tight.
I played with the glass today. I like it. As others have stated it is a bit stiffer. I thoroughly abused this glass and did not get it to burn, bubble or loose color. I love the brown. OMG, for those of you who are looking for a dark choc brown, this is it. The white works nicely as a core, it does not bleed up on the edges of the transp. The Burgundy is very dense and looked best as stringer or as a light encasing over the white. The semi-op Marine is a lovely color by itself. I tried it with Dk Ivory. I really abused these two because I like the look of Dk Ivory over heated. This did make the color of the Marine a greener color and a dark center line in the Dk Ivory. V.272 works its magic as a base with stringer of Brown or Semi Op Marine. The stringer has a metallic edge. I was able to get the metallic fumed look but no edge with the Burgundy. I do not see any incompatibility cracks so far. None of the beads made have broken. I will post pictures when I get a chance to take them.
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2009-02-04, 12:53pm
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Yes, it would be great to have the glass packed differently and at least one rod labeled but oh Sadie, please don't suggest a price increase as an exchange for different packaging or the rods to be labeled. So many of us (me included) couldn't afford to pay a higher price right now. This is wonderful glass at an affordable price offered at a time when a good deal is hard to come by.
Anyway, that said, I have a question for the Devardi testers. Have you tried the glass in a press yet? The past few days I've been making Anne's Chintz beads using Lauscha, Moretti and Devardi for the bases. None were encased but all were pressed in a lentil press. At least half of the Devardi beads cracked down the middle along the mandrel line. All others were fine. Any thoughts? I do plan to try again but will heat the press on a heat plate. Thanks for any help. Kas
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Yes, it would be great to have the glass packed differently and at least one rod labeled but oh Sadie, please don't suggest a price increase as an exchange for different packaging or the rods to be labeled. So many of us (me included) couldn't afford to pay a higher price right now. This is wonderful glass at an affordable price offered at a time when a good deal is hard to come by.
Anyway, that said, I have a question for the Devardi testers. Have you tried the glass in a press yet? The past few days I've been making Anne's Chintz beads using Lauscha, Moretti and Devardi for the bases. None were encased but all were pressed in a lentil press. At least half of the Devardi beads cracked down the middle along the mandrel line. All others were fine. Any thoughts? I do plan to try again but will heat the press on a heat plate. Thanks for any help. Kas
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I haven't played with Devardi, but I'm sure you already know that cracking along the mandrel is a thermal crack. When I 1st switched to 96, I had that problem a couple of times because the stiffer glass cooled more quickly. Here's what I learned:
1. Make sure your glass is hot and press quickly.
2. You may have to press multiple times, but be sure to reheat after each press.
3. Have your press elevated to the level of your torch so that you don't have to travel as far to press (losing heat in the meantime).
After a while, you get used to the way the glass works and you won't have any issues. I no longer have to repress multiple times, for the most part because I know exactly how hot to get the glass and how fast to move.
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2009-02-04, 2:25pm
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I haven't played with Devardi, but I'm sure you already know that cracking along the mandrel is a thermal crack. When I 1st switched to 96, I had that problem a couple of times because the stiffer glass cooled more quickly. Here's what I learned:
1. Make sure your glass is hot and press quickly.
2. You may have to press multiple times, but be sure to reheat after each press.
3. Have your press elevated to the level of your torch so that you don't have to travel as far to press (losing heat in the meantime).
After a while, you get used to the way the glass works and you won't have any issues. I no longer have to repress multiple times, for the most part because I know exactly how hot to get the glass and how fast to move.
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Thank you Shawnette! I'll take your advice and press more quickly. I really do like the new glass and was hoping it was my fault for the cracked beads. Enjoy the day! Kas
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